H17 18th conversation of Jorge Barrenechea with an Ummite

18th CONVERSATION WITH AN UMMITE - Jorge Barrenechea, 22 January 1988, from 13:30 to 14:15, duration 45'

On arriving home, María José, the housekeeper, tells me the gentleman operated on the throat had called. He calls me straight away.

Ummo - We are in the capital of Spain. We will be in Madrid for a few days. Then we will return to Albacete. I do not say how many days, because we protect ourselves.

Sir, I ask you not to open the envelope before 2 p.m. on the first authorised day, that is, 24 January. I ask you not to invite more people than those indicated in the message we sent you earlier.

Jorge Barrenechea - We will do so.

U. - Do not hand out copies except to your authorised brothers. We are very afraid that this document may be spread.

JB. - We will follow your instructions with the utmost rigour.

U. - Do not open the document before 2 p.m. You may meet, but do not open the document before the specified times; we will keep watch from 10:30 in the morning, as we specified on the envelope. But you may read it quietly at any time. Because we would like to watch personally every day from that date.

If you meet in the basement, open the windows the night before and do not search the furniture. Do not search that furniture. If you find a small METAL SPHERE: DO NOT TOUCH IT. It is very important. Leave it where it is, wherever it may be.

Listen carefully. There is an aspect of the life of Jesus that you have never clarified. We have managed to locate two documents. One of them sets the date 8 years after the year ZERO, that is, the year ZERO being the one you mistakenly attribute to the birth of Jesus. Another document sets that date in the year 3. Your historiographical scale sets the date 4 years before the point ZERO.

As you see, there are three dates, because today none of your specialists accepts the year 1.

In the document we are sending you we venture the year 8 as the probable date, but there is no certainty and moreover it presents certain contradictions that must be studied. So we do not give it as a definitive date, because we ourselves are not sure, pending the unearthing of new documents that clarify the enigma. In any case, we reject the year 4 before ZERO. The most probable interval lies between 2 and 8 after ZERO.

Add this NOTE to the document received, when you are able to open it. When we are sure, we will inform you.

JB. - You once spoke of the figure of Jesus as SACRED for you. Do you not consider it so?

U. - The adjective sacred carries specific ideological connotations. If SACRED is the equivalent of ANOINTED, which is the meaning of CHRIST in Greek, then we cannot accept that concept. If you consider that he is SACRED because he is in direct union with God, then we can agree. This subject is set out more clearly in the last document.

JB. - Why do you say that when the emergence of the UMMOWOAS appears, humanity lasts only a short time?

U. - Because the UMMOWOAS reproduce very rarely. Then the death rate exceeds the birth rate and humanity is on the way to extinction and disappearance.

JB. - Have you written the letter Angelo CROSIGNANI asked me for?

U. - When we are in Italy we will send him a report. Now we will only be in Madrid for a few days. We do not say how long because we could be overheard.

JB. - Then, this time, being indiscreet, I will ask questions about domestic politics.

U. - Ask your question and I will see whether I can answer it or not.

JB. - What can you tell me about the withdrawal of the F-16s?

U. - The North American authorities themselves imposed the withdrawal of the F-16 aircraft because they are no longer of interest. Public opinion believed in a triumph of Spanish diplomacy, but strategically it no longer interested the United States. The new strategic policy has changed radically. It was the U.S. that was no longer interested.

JB. - So will the ETA problem improve?

U. - YES. At this moment the Spanish government's cards are quite good, but ETA's action will not cease for some time.

JB. - Well, has the risk of a military COUP diminished?

U. - Yes, it has diminished. But on the other hand it has increased in Argentina, the Philippines and Uruguay.

That does not mean it will happen, but there is a risk that the military forces and certain civilian forces will help a future COUP.

There is a sector of the Banks, the Clergy and the great landowners that would support a COUP, not as cruel as the previous one, with less violent repression, so as not to give such a degraded image as the previous COUP did.

JB. - An improvement in the US - USSR confrontation?

U. - Notably better. The risk of a war is diminishing for the time being.

JB. - And disarmament? Will it favour the development of the third world?

U. - For the time being, NO. The situation of the countries of the south is very abnormal and very unjust.

At this moment the Soviet Union and the U.S. are preoccupied with the new technologies of destruction and are neglecting other concerns.

Hence the marginalisation of the countries of the south.

The new techniques of destruction are terrible. Both are very uneasy.

JB. - Do you think the Soviets will leave Afghanistan?

U. - YES. They will leave. But with the guarantee that the guerrillas will not be helped from Pakistan by the U.S. A neutral government will be created (the U.S. will exert influence to neutralise it, so that the exiles do not take power). If the U.S. guarantees that it will not help the exiles, the Soviet Union will withdraw its troops.

JB. - We have made enquiries at the Chambers of Commerce of various countries to get the addresses of OPTICAL FIBRE manufacturers.

U. - Do not limit yourselves to OPTICAL FIBRE, but (think also) of the components linked to that technology, which will be very interesting for you.

JB. - Everyone agrees that Rafael Farriols should run or chair the future company.

U. - Start sooner; it is better. Other firms may get ahead and end up saturating the market. If you are skilful, a commercial embryo, however modest, is very interesting. The whole future of communications will be affected by primary optoelectronics. Because the whole information process will be optical, from amplification to data transmission.

JB. - If Jesus appeared on Earth by chance, it would be surprising that he should have come to be born precisely among the people with the greatest religious concern.

U. - You become fixated on thinking that the Jewish people was a very religious people. IT IS NOT TRUE. Other peoples were more religious than Israel. For example, Iran with Mazdaism (or Zoroastrianism) was what inspired the Jews.

In reality, the people of Israel became imbued with the teachings of Mazdaism. The people of Israel created the figure of Jehovah, a copy of ORMUZD. The traditions of Israel come from Mesopotamia.

JB. - With the B.B., are we free?

U. - Yes. Deep knowledge of the laws, forbidding oneself to violate the laws.

JB. - Is there any way of recognising when a mental process, a thought, comes from the B.B.?

U. - NO. The information reaches the deepest layers of the brain and it is very difficult to distinguish it from the information of childhood.

JB. - Could you clarify for us the matter of love in the various conditions of OEMMII men?

U. - It is a very complex subject. If we can, we will send you a report.

JB. - Our brother Dionisio Garrido insists on knowing whether communication with the dead exists. He believes it true, like many people on Earth.

U. - We are in contact with the B.B. through our subconscious. Under those conditions communication is possible, but in practice it is difficult to know (to verify).

Mediumistic phenomena of communication are not always real, but they can be. Hence it is difficult to know whether it has passed through the telepathic channel, and one can be mistaken.

JB. - Can a SOUL in the B.B. see the future of the Earth?

U. - NO.

JB. - If possible, we would like you to give us a synopsis of the other inhabited worlds; that would extend the synopsis of your history.

U. - If you keep your commitments of DISCRETION, you will have more information.

We do not demand them, but we beg them of you. We ask you for DISCRETION; we ask you for nothing material.

Now cut off.

JB. - Not without thanking you once again, with my poor words, for everything you have done for us, my friends, soul friends!

U. - I place my hand upon your noble chest as a sign of friendship, and upon that of your excellent wife, for whom we feel great affection.

Please cut off the communication.